b11 sunny - back again (Read 594 times)

[jakob]

Seeing all the b11s appearing has ignited my passion for my car, that was being neglected..

Some of you can probably remember seeing it when it was smashed up by a bin lorry, it took a long time/ a year or so to source a wing and a wishbone, so it was sat looking sorry for its self..





It was sat for a long time, it was originally immaculate with 22k on the clock, but rust slowly killed it. I lost interest and invested in this, what I thought was a gem



Nissan march turbo, rare as hell...and expensive to run and rebuild I learnt a lot from this though, and this helped kick start the datsun again

The sunny finally came back on the road when the march was gone, and it passed mot with flying colours. After this I had to address the paint, and the wheels ( im not 17 anymore )



While she was away, gettind de-bump stripped and resprayed I worked on the wheels. I wanted to go for that cool retro jap look, so I decided to keep the origanal wheels and band them.





I went for staggered banding, 6.5j at the front, and 7.5 at the rear, which fitted perfectly as the arches are pretty small on the sunnys for a japanese car. It cost a lot for the banding, chrome powder coating etc, but the result payed off



Some shots of the wheels and respray;





As it stands, its fairing alright, but im young, i want speed aswell..soooo I brought my self an immaculate primera gt, one lady owner from new..never thrashed, until now ha, as a doner car to eventually drop the lump into this. Holding out till the weather drys up, and warms up so i can use my zx6r as my commuter and rip my two cars apart..

Left to do will be the engine swap, suspension (toying with air) and brakes, which annoys me as I spent out a lot of money on my steelies, but theyre only 13"..so Iv brought some temp 14" eclats to polish up while im waiting to do my conversion



was going to spray them matt black, but I think machine polished will look a lot better, until I can save enough to import some impul mesh wheels

Heres what I hope my engine bay will look like in the coming months



guy that owns this is from puerto rico i think, spoken to him and I think keeping it n/a with no turbo will be the best option, and see me through to some comfortable power figures fingers crossed

[Al Ramone]

Wow. If you pull off that engine swap it'd be pretty potent. I quite like the Primeras so i'd keep both cars if it was me!

[datsfun]

You are going to destroy an immaculate P10/P11 primera GT which will lend parts for the sunny B11 ? Hmm, not something I would do but then again they are your cars :-)

Good luck with the swap.

[jakob]

cheers guys, yeah it will be a shame, its such a nice car to drive ! but the sunny needs a faster heart, so needs must be but I may look into another primera for a daily !

[spottedlaurel]

Good to see the Sunny got resurrected!

Do think about the conversion long and hard and plan it all out before you launch into it, be a shame for two rare/nice cars to get butchered and neither end up seeing the road again.

[zarru3]

Have you thought about using E15ET engine instead? There are a few B11's here in Finland with Cherry 1.5 Turbo transplant in them. Seeing how it's from the same engine family the swap should be quite easy to do and I suppose the gearbox is exactly the same. Gives about 115hp on standard form, but can easily modded. The beauty of the turbo swap would be that it is still drivable everyday. N/A route usually means that you end up spending a fortune to upgrade your engine and when it finally makes the power you want it will idle badly and it will be hard to drive since the powerband will be up high on the revs.

I must admit that using a stock SR20DE in a B11 is a cool idea especially considering the fact that it's something we can't do in Finland because of certain restrictions in discplacement size. You get the reliability of a stock engine, but the power increase will still be double the stock power.

[Tero75]

E15S and E15ET have different gearboxes, flywheels and starter motors and these can't be mixed together. But both gearboxes use same driveshafts so you can use which ever combination you choose.
Actually E15ET has the same fly wheel and starter motor with N13 4WD.

E15ET starter motor:

[jakob]

hi guys, yeah Iv got some one helping thats not a complete monkey like me so it should go pretty well. And its not a limited edition primera gt if that makes it any better

I did think about the cherry turbo engine yes, but its not only finding one, its sourcing parts and keeping it reliable ! iv had a small turbo engine all ready, and it was fun, but just not reliable for what i want it for. I thought a nice normally aspirated sr20 would be good for the time being, as i also do a lot of motor way driving and want something thats not reving its nuts of at 80mph haha

[jakob]

Jan 22, 2015 15:02:25 GMT 1 zarru3 said:

Have you thought about using E15ET engine instead? There are a few B11's here in Finland with Cherry 1.5 Turbo transplant in them. Seeing how it's from the same engine family the swap should be quite easy to do and I suppose the gearbox is exactly the same. Gives about 115hp on standard form, but can easily modded. The beauty of the turbo swap would be that it is still drivable everyday. N/A route usually means that you end up spending a fortune to upgrade your engine and when it finally makes the power you want it will idle badly and it will be hard to drive since the powerband will be up high on the revs.

I must admit that using a stock SR20DE in a B11 is a cool idea especially considering the fact that it's something we can't do in Finland because of certain restrictions in discplacement size. You get the reliability of a stock engine, but the power increase will still be double the stock power.

oh and do you guys have access to coilovers over there? as i know cherrys are popular and they are an identical platform
i have a few contacts in malaysia but coilovers are going to set me back around 800£ which for that price, i had may aswell look at custom suspension by GAZ shocks

[dawson]

same wheels as me looks awesome man good to see another b11 owner on here

[zarru3]

Jan 22, 2015 22:47:55 GMT 1 jakob said:

Jan 22, 2015 15:02:25 GMT 1 zarru3 said:

Have you thought about using E15ET engine instead? There are a few B11's here in Finland with Cherry 1.5 Turbo transplant in them. Seeing how it's from the same engine family the swap should be quite easy to do and I suppose the gearbox is exactly the same. Gives about 115hp on standard form, but can easily modded. The beauty of the turbo swap would be that it is still drivable everyday. N/A route usually means that you end up spending a fortune to upgrade your engine and when it finally makes the power you want it will idle badly and it will be hard to drive since the powerband will be up high on the revs.

I must admit that using a stock SR20DE in a B11 is a cool idea especially considering the fact that it's something we can't do in Finland because of certain restrictions in discplacement size. You get the reliability of a stock engine, but the power increase will still be double the stock power.

oh and do you guys have access to coilovers over there? as i know cherrys are popular and they are an identical platform
i have a few contacts in malaysia but coilovers are going to set me back around 800£ which for that price, i had may aswell look at custom suspension by GAZ shocks

I'm not sure if there actually is a specific kit for the N12, but from what I heard Golf Mk1 coilovers should fit the N12. Can anyone else confirm this? I think Tero75 might actually know a bit more about the B11 suspension.

[Tero75]

I haven't heard of kit that would fit N12 as is, or with only small modification.
But Golf Mk1 shocks are used when original struts are converted to coilovers. Mk1 shocks fit in B11 strut but it's about 5cm shorter than original so it works much better as orginal shock with shorter suspension, and there's a wide range of shocks available for Mk1.
And actually B11 hasn't got rechangable shock in front nor are they ment to take apart.

[jakob]

small update..

car was dragging a bit on the front disks, so I finally got around to changing the front disks. The hubs on these are ridiculous, the disk was actually pressed onto the hub which made an hours work, into many






a disk was also snapped in the process



slapped the eclats on to get an idea, they look okay. they're off to get polished now, then ill get tyres and get them on



I also managed to source coilovers from malaysia, which some how fit ! But, and there is always a but, I didn't get rear springs, so its currently still sat on the spaxx 40 mm lowering springs. It sits alright at the minute, and holds the road a lot better. A lot is an understatement really !!!









I need to get my head to it, and find springs and an adjuster cup on the rear, so i can get it a tad lower. Im thinking mk1 golf or mk2 clio springs and cups will fit, but i need to get round to some measurements !

Now that I have some time off uni, its also booked in for a slight blow off at the sprayers, theres a few scrub marks and stone chips that are bugging me. Jap fest ticket has also been brought, so I don't have long to get my sr20de lump in. The coilovers have motivated me, I just need to get the paint and bay sprayed, oh and sort a disk conversion then im ordering my driveshafts

[jakob]

do any of you cherry guys from finlad have any easy brake suggestions for the front ? iv read about the b11 diesels having rear disks, but finding one wont happen. Also read about praires, but they are a pain to find as well. hoping i can find an easy solution, if not ill fall back to the primera gt i have

[Tero75]

Mar 27, 2015 2:43:21 GMT 1 jakob said:

do any of you cherry guys from finlad have any easy brake suggestions for the front ? iv read about the b11 diesels having rear disks, but finding one wont happen. Also read about praires, but they are a pain to find as well. hoping i can find an easy solution, if not ill fall back to the primera gt i have

B11/N12 diesel and N12 Turbo have got drums in rear, but they have ventilated discs in front so front breaks are bolt-on upgraded if you can find the parts.
Some Australia and New Zealand model N12's have disc brakes in rear, but for some reason other parts of world got all N12's with drum brakes in rear.
Where in Malaysia did you find those coilovers?!? Me want too!!!