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Post by char1ie on Jun 17, 2013 23:18:58 GMT 1
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Post by Al Ramone on Jun 18, 2013 8:30:20 GMT 1
quite a difference in spec. i haven't read either write up so just gonna my thoughts from what i see. i think i prefer the second one personally. as much as i like the sidedraft carbs, what i really HATE is the fact it's been run with no air filtes so unknown amount of dust and grit has been sucked up into the engine. also, the mods to the dash/gauges aren't great. but maybe reversible? so if i wanted a 510 coupe i think i'd buy second one and lower it. would you be able to buy the bits you like, such as manifolds/carbs (with air filtes  ) and get them fitted, here or otherwise, with the extra money? |
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Post by Al Ramone on Jun 18, 2013 8:51:26 GMT 1
i just noticed. the modified one has a bloody LUCAS ignition coil as well!!!   thats it. i'm deff sold on the second one now!  have you got a full write up on each car? if so put it up here. i can't get much info from the sites and there's plenty we can't see, such as what extras the modified one has, brakes, suspension, engine internals, gearbox, diff etc. also to read what the sellers say of the paintwork/bodywork and if they've had any repairs. |
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Post by gainsb1 on Jun 18, 2013 8:53:17 GMT 1
Second one. I love originality.
(Bonnet doesn't line up in the first one)
Leigh (Area rep)
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Post by char1ie on Jun 18, 2013 9:57:11 GMT 1
Write up? Spec? I don't speak Japanese. Once I decide, and I'm with you two both on preferring the second one, I have to send the agent to discuss the car, try to get the price down and buy it.
Charlie
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Post by s20 on Jun 18, 2013 20:54:32 GMT 1
Has he brought up the fact that one car is in Shizuoka, and the other is in Fukuoka? There's about 900km distance between them..... That will surely be a factor in both viewing / appraising the cars and transporting / exporting them. The car in Shizuoka is closest to the more commonly used RoRo ports. If you want to send me on an all-expenses trip to inspect the car in Fukuoka I'm up for it ( and have my panama hat and grass skirt ready and waiting ). I don't know where your broker is based, but I'd be very surprised if he'd go all the way to Fukuoka to view a car unless you agreed to cover the costs of the trip. Those are not actually "GTR" seats in the Fukuoka-based car. They are replicas of the U0175 'Datsun Bucket' seats, which were a period Nissan 'Sports Option' accessory. The steering wheel is a repro 'Datsun Compe.' item too. Good, tasteful additions that are not cheap when you start adding them up. I suspect that this car has a lot of other modifications too. Its worth investigating what they actually consist of, but I have a hunch that the former owner didn't tend to cut corners. I like it. Oh, and I would not necessarily worry about the lack of air filters. There are plenty of clapped out, bore washed and badly built engines that have run on air filters all their lives. I'd judge them on a case-by-case basis if I were you. The car in Shizuoka is being sold by a dealer called 'Takeey's' in Hamamatsu. They are well known in Japanese old car circles and usually have pretty good cars. But again, you need to view their cars on a case-by-case basis. Japanese dealers tend to sell such cars with a view to modifying / refurbishing them to the new owners' taste and wallet, a process that they actually generate further business from. Take a car as-is, for export, and they stand to lose the possibility of the extra business. There may be small faults on the car that they know about, and would rectify for a new Japanese owner. I don't want to appear rude, but I have to be Divil's Advocate and make the observation that you don't actually seem to know all that much about these cars ( or indeed old Japanese cars in general ). You may know what you like, and if you don't know enough about them then that will have to suffice, but I would recommend that you put in a little more work on the research side before pulling the trigger.... |
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Post by Al Ramone on Jun 18, 2013 21:16:02 GMT 1
Oh, and I would not necessarily worry about the lack of air filters. There are plenty of clapped out, bore washed and badly built engines that have run on air filters all their lives. true enough. it's just one of my personal pet hates.  but great info. you're THE person to give advice on these old japanese imports. |
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Post by gainsb1 on Jun 19, 2013 15:21:26 GMT 1
A friend of mine has been importing Toyotas for a number of years and tells me that those sold for export (through a dealer?) have to comply VERY strictly with descriptions of the cars - even showing on a template diagram where scratches and dents are. As such, he gets to see what he will get without actually going abroad. He has never had one that he has been disappointed with. He knows little about mechanics but puts every car through a rigorous service (involving timimg belts/chains, no matter what) before he sells them on.
If he can do it, I'm sure you can. Just make sure you understand the full description, and good luck!!
Leigh (Area rep)
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Post by s20 on Jun 20, 2013 0:17:40 GMT 1
A friend of mine has been importing Toyotas for a number of years and tells me that those sold for export (through a dealer?) have to comply VERY strictly with descriptions of the cars - even showing on a template diagram where scratches and dents are. Sorry, but I have no idea what your friend is talking about. The only thing I can relate it to is auction grading, and even then that's down to the skill, attitude and daily schedule of the individual inspector. There are not many ways of seeking redress, and after a car has gone for export it's usually too late..... There IS no scheme, no system, no regulating authority for sales descriptions other than - as with anywhere else - what is legal, decent, honest and truthful. 'Condition' of 40+ year old cars is a nebulous concept at the best of times. Anyone expecting no surprises ( whether good or bad ) when buying a car from Japan remotely - even when you trust your middleman completely - is living in La La Land. Just like with wives and girlfriends, you shouldn't wish their life began the day you met. All such 40+ year old cars will have 'had a life'. In most cases you'll end up knowing more about the car than the vendor did. |
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Post by datsfun on Oct 25, 2013 21:48:28 GMT 1
Write up? Spec? I don't speak Japanese. Once I decide, and I'm with you two both on preferring the second one, I have to send the agent to discuss the car, try to get the price down and buy it. Charlie Has this arrived in UK now? Would be good to see another 510 |
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