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Post by datsunturbo on Nov 20, 2012 23:58:50 GMT 1
this one whines like mad in every gear, or at least the remaining 3. seemed to work ok when I picked it up. must just be bad luck I guess. It started having trouble going into 2nd, now that seems fine but 4th has gone missing, lol
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Post by Al Ramone on Nov 21, 2012 8:31:30 GMT 1
like the wheels. not sure why you wanna make the rears narrower thou...
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Post by datsunturbo on Nov 21, 2012 11:14:49 GMT 1
They stick out by about 2.5" at the rear. with a live rear axle I'll never get them to tuck in. they do look good with 6" lips though.
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Post by s20 on Nov 21, 2012 13:32:30 GMT 1
I was told these gearboxes are based on the early ford escort gearboxes so theyre bulletproof....... Who told you that .....?
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Post by barnzey on Nov 21, 2012 13:41:25 GMT 1
its probably wrong as ive never read it anywhere. The guy down my local bullseye has been in the trade since my grandad started and he said in the same way the engine is based on the austin a-series the box is based on the escort.
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Post by datman on Nov 21, 2012 13:47:46 GMT 1
the engine is based on the austin a-series is it?
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Post by tommygoldy on Nov 21, 2012 14:17:06 GMT 1
the engine is based on the austin a-series is it? That's what I heard...I read somewhere that the A10 cylinder head was a near exact copy of that in the original mini cooper 997 engine. Wikipedia says: "The Nissan A engine design is a refined, quiet and durable gasoline engine. It appears to be a modern replacement of the earlier iron-headed Nissan E engine and is of similar dimensions. The 1960s E series was an all-new design inspired of Nissan's improvements to the BMC A-Series engine design in the 1950s (Nissan was a licensee of Austin Motor Company technology)."
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Post by barnzey on Nov 21, 2012 14:26:57 GMT 1
People love telling me that the japenese took the a series and improved it, ive heard it loads of times, is it just me?
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Post by s20 on Nov 21, 2012 14:33:05 GMT 1
The guy down my local bullseye has been in the trade since my grandad started and he said in the same way the engine is based on the austin a-series the box is based on the escort. With all due respect to the person concerned, just because he's had a long career in the trade doesn't mean he knows anything about Japanese automotive design history. In fact, he's probably more likely to have absorbed a lot of the propaganda, disinformation, p*ss taking and general "they copied us" / "we taught them all they know" cobblers that still gets spouted even today. Sorry, but I don't think there's any truth in the story that Nissan "based" any of their gearboxes on something that was fitted to an Escort. And I wouldn't put too much store by anything written about these cars or the company that made them if it comes from Wikipedia either.
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Post by tommygoldy on Nov 21, 2012 20:24:50 GMT 1
And I wouldn't put too much store by anything written about these cars or the company that made them if it comes from Wikipedia either. Agreed that there are problems with Wikipedia as a source of info, but personally I don't think it's all that contentious to suggest that the Austin A-series design might have had an influence on Nissan's engines. Nissan in the past produced Austins under license after all. As an E10 owner i can't help but see the influence of FWD BMC cars on my Cherry. Of course it's a far better car than it's British equivalent. The Ford gearbox thing I've never heard before and I can't see any evidence that would point to an influence. But who knows?
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Post by 30psi on Nov 21, 2012 20:57:59 GMT 1
I heard that Datsun took Chrysler's 426 hemi, cut it in half, stuck 2 cams on top, doubled the number of valves in that head, then decided it didn't need to be 3.5 litre so reduced it to 2.0 litre and called it the FJ20.
Is this true?
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Post by Al Ramone on Nov 21, 2012 22:08:40 GMT 1
I heard that Datsun took Chrysler's 426 hemi, cut it in half, stuck 2 cams on top, doubled the number of valves in that head, then decided it didn't need to be 3.5 litre so reduced it to 2.0 litre and called it the FJ20. Is this true? must be. i've just read it. ;D
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Post by barnzey on Nov 21, 2012 22:53:37 GMT 1
you'll be right s20, as i say ive never read it anywhere so guessed it was probably a myth from 30 years ago.
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Post by s20 on Nov 21, 2012 23:09:51 GMT 1
... but personally I don't think it's all that contentious to suggest that the Austin A-series design might have had an influence on Nissan's engines. Nissan in the past produced Austins under license after all. I accept that some "influence" is likely, and quite logical. Nissan's staff have accepted as much, and paid great tribute to Austin's staff. It was a great partnership. What I don't accept is the thing being completely overplayed and exaggerated. Taken at face value, a lot of people would have you believe that Nissan ( in fact, Japan as a whole ) "copied" virtually everything they made and make from 'Western' designs. As though Japanese engineers, designers, architects, artists and indeed any creatives never ever had an original thought in their heads. It's just propaganda, prejudice and ignorance. There are plenty of other instances of stories like this "Escort gearbox" thing, and - just like UFO stories and any other kind of conspiracy nonsense - they become hard to disprove simply because they are so easily believed and repeated. It makes me even sadder when I see fans of these cars believing it too.... As an E10 owner i can't help but see the influence of FWD BMC cars on my Cherry. Of course it's a far better car than it's British equivalent. No offence, but I'd be much happier if you could see the much greater influence of the fine engineers and designers of the Prince Motor Co. behind it, and you could link it back to their fine work in troubled times at companies like Nakajima Hikoki and Tachikawa. If the E10 had been a British creation, we'd probably all know its bloodline and heritage and be praising it to the hills for that. Instead it got a 'Datsun' badge attached to it.....
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Post by barnzey on Nov 21, 2012 23:21:01 GMT 1
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